Results of AIR SAFETY AUSTRALIA's ballot on Aviation Reform

In the period 10th to 23rd September 2001, AIR SAFETY AUSTRALIA conducted a ballot on aviation reform in Australia.

The result was an overwhelming rejection of the present situation, whereby CASA runs the reform process. Only 4 members want that to continue - out of more than 400 who voted. The majority was in favour of the Minister's Office running the Reform Program, with a slightly smaller number wanting the reform program halted, full stop!

Whilst the ballot was under way, the situation changed dramatically -

Firstly, on 11th September the infamous terrorist attacks took place in the USA. These attacks will provide the basis, in years to come, for all kinds of attempts to restrict our Freedom to Fly Responsibly.

Secondly, on 14th September CASA published Notice of Proposed Rule Making (NPRM) about CASR Part 91, a hostile piece of anti-aviation legislation which bears no resemblance to FAR 91.

Thirdly, on 21st September CASA published a separate NPRM, number 0115ss, which if implemented would have the effect of destroying Ultralight Aviation as we presently know it.

Below are set out the exact results, the question asked, and the remarks made by each and every participant.


The results as reported to AIR SAFETY AUSTRALIA by e-BALLOT

The Aviation Reform Program should continue to be run by CASA
1st preference: 4
2nd preference: 39
3rd preference: 399
Total: 442

The Aviation Reform Program should be run by the Minister’s office
1st preference: 251
2nd preference: 191
3rd preference: 3
Total: 445

The Aviation Reform Program should be halted
1st preference: 195
2nd preference: 202
3rd preference: 43
Total: 440

Some people only voted 1 and 3 and other variations. Thus the difference in vote numbers between questions.

The voting method chosen by our members

Online: 26 Fax: 360 email: 59 Total: 445

e-Ballot has sent messages to all voters informing them that we counted their vote and advising them how it was counted.


THE BALLOT QUESTION

AIR SAFETY AUSTRALIA is conducting a ballot to determine the wishes of members on the matter of aviation reform.  After reading the following question, please decide the order in which you prefer them and number the boxes accordingly - 1 for the alternative you like the most and 3 for that which you like the least.

Australia has been engaged in a program of aviation reform for the past five years.  This program has produced some benefits, such as the Private Instrument Rating.  However it has also produced disadvantages.  It has also produced a lot of confusion and uncertainty.  The process may work better if it were conducted by the Minister's office rather than by CASA.

What is the order of your preference (1 for most preferred, 3 for least preferred)

___  The Aviation Reform program should continue to be run by CASA

___  The Aviation Reform program should be run by the Minister's office

___  The Aviation Reform program should be halted

e-ballot will count all votes and report the results to AIR SAFETY AUSTRALIA.  e-ballot will also confirm each vote back to the voter.  If you do not receive a confirmation direct from e-ballot within 7 days it means your vote has gone astray.

The ballot closes on Sunday 23rd September at 12:00 noon Australian Eastern time.

Only members of AIR SAFETY AUSTRALIA may vote ...  Members may vote once only. 


THE COMMENTS MADE BY OUR MEMBERS

Participant 0024
"There is no doubt in my mind that CASA play the man and not the ball and this coercion should be taken from them as they do not have the moral fortitude to administer the power they have in a fair way"
 
Participant 0027
"The reform should continue - Not sure either of these options will work"
 

Participant 0028
"Keep up the good work!"
 
Participant 00229
"Considered reform is doubtless needed. However reform for reform's sake or change without focussed objectives, particularly without full and proper consultation with every segment of the Industry is costly, self-defeating and has the potential to frustrate, un-nerve and encourage a sense of cynicism in all concerned. Particularly the very people that are intended to be helped by the "Reforms". Dealing with Humans means that there is always going to be a political factor in any equation. However, for genuine, sustainable and widely accepted reform, the politics need to be acknowledged and then put to one side."
 
Participant 00231
"The Aviation Reform process has been under way for 5 years. Reform (i.e. change) has become a goal in itself. No consideration is given to whether there will be any tangible benefit from the change. On balance it is better halted."
 
Participant 00235
"? Life after CASA decisions are too penalty related that is causing people to opt out of flying. The ministers office would ?? ?? People from CASA."
 
Participant 00239
"Boyd - have a look at Prescribed local operations for a stuff up. They excluded "amatuer built" from AOC's - meaning exp categ owners have been unable to have any training or BFR's for 9 months. - ?? They have  found that the licensing branch don’t have a separate training ?? For a Exp cat - result a reversal - but the exclusion remains ?? ?? AOC's. CAR 262 AM (2) (g) and CAR 262 (2) (d) previously allowed flight schools to do training in exp cat aircraft - and they have not been changed! This is a bloody stuff up and it has left us unable to give new exp cat owners any training incl BFR's."
 
Participant 00251
"Thanks again Boyd and Jim"
 
Participant 00258
"Aviation reform should be carried out as follows. 1. Interest parties should nominate reforms - why needed, effect and benefits. 2. These statements recommendede to go to industry for comment 3. Th industry board (CASA minority member) recommends - implementation to minister."
 
Participant 00262
"The reform programme is badly off the rails and the resulting documentation is designed to place enormous discretionary power in the hands of CASA.It is directed at obtaining convictions more easily rather that providing clear and stable regulations to which the industry may"
 
Participant 00266
"CASA is a dead weight to Australian aviation."
 
Participant 00267
"The reform should be halted until both the minister and the senior public servants in CASA have the in-depth knowledge to carry out such reform. The current management appears to lack vital and basic aviation based knowledge and make error after error. When (or if) the Government gets around to see'n that CASA has a better management structure, I may cast my vote a little differently. At the moment, and for the past 15/20 years, the lack of general business knowledge by the troops and generals is appalling. Well, the proofs in the pudding, they are getting quite a reputation for busting companies, even the big one's! And all in the name of aviation safety. Let Power rule Surpreme under the swelling empire called "aviation safety".."
 
Participant 00270
"Must be independent of CASA ?? ?? Under respected independent chairman. Run by CASA or halted altogether are poor second choices."
 
Participant 002118
"If reform continues down its path to date, we soon enough won't have enough of an industry left to need CASA at all. Hey, could that work??"
 
Participant 002125
"I think it is better to close down reform for a period in order to ???? The extraordinary number of staff at CASA before starting again from an ??? At the ministers office."
 
Participant 002128
"Anything! (repeat anything) done by CASA must be suspect. Sorry, but I loved the previous attitude of "THE DEPARTMENT" (pre-CASA) and don't now, trust them one millimetre - I wish I knew how they got it so wrong."
 
Participant 002129
"Thank you for e-ballot, at last I can have some input."
 
Participant 002150
"I have just returned from holidays - consideration of my ballot will be appreciated."
 
Participant 002152
"Keep up the good work"
 
Participant 002159
"Reform should be geared toward simplicity & minimising costs. Should be centered on need for reform issues."
 
Participant 002160
"Regulation for private use aircraft is over the top."
 
Participant 002161
"Keep up the good work."
 
Participant 002164
"CASA is a disaster"
 
Participant 002169
"Sorry about the delay. Just got back from Perth. Replyed first chance today."
 
Participant 002170
"If Labour gets in you should forget the whole idea of reform."
 
Participant 002171
"It really seems change for the sake of change."
 
Participant 002182
"This whole fiasco is further proof of "Power corrupts - absolute power corrupts absolutely. The debacle must end!"
 
Participant 002188
"I was originally involved in the reform process as a member of SAAA experimental category committee. Recent results have made flying much less attractive."
 
Participant 002191
"I find it difficult to believe that CASA has a sinister hidden agenda for GA. Perhaps they are so busy with the big boys that they don't give a rats about us!"
 
Participant 002201
"Congratulations to A.S.A for working on behalf of all Aust. Pilots."
 
Participant 002207
"Decisions on Law reform traditionally rest with the people concerned through their representatives not the enforcers."
 
Participant 002216
" Maybe a comment to the Federal Tourism Minister, that if ASA charges were reduced then more Australians may fly because of cheaper tickets which in turn leads to more flights etc. _ e.g removal of Air Nav Charges and Terminal Charges (landing charges) from the regional air space would help tourism."
 
Participant 002221
"The reform should be scrapped until proper consultation processes with industry and representatives of general aviation are complete and understood by all parties in a truly democratic manner, as determined by Australia's democratic processes. I for one am tired of the Lawmakers deciding what is best with total disregard for the user."
 
Participant 002230
"Keep up the good work Boyd"
 
Participant 002233
"I have no doubt about the need for reform of the regulations but given half a chance the present CASA regulators will make it worse. They will probably have a field day in the name of anti-terrorism in the near future. I have grave doubts about a reform program being run by the Minister's office considering the past performance of the incumbent and the Shadow Minister. It seems unlikely to me that a Minister would be prepared to give the large task the necessary priority. Can we possibly influence enough sensible people in CASA or perhaps our only hope is to keep on attacking the draft regulations piece-meal in political circles as you have been doing - an awesome task I know for which we owe you our thanks."
 
Participant 002234
"This simply looks like CASA flexing its muscles and promoting 'full employment' for its staff even when something doesn't need to be changed.......wasting taxpayers money.......shameful"
 
Participant 002254
"I entirely agree that CASA make changes for the sake of change. I too have been a victim of Fax ?? From CASA"
 
Participant 002268
"I do not believe CASA should be in charge of any reform."
 
Participant 002271
"Are computers every wrong? - recently we re-financed our home for business purposes - imaging the fun we had trying to establish the property was ours - yes somebody had shifted 1 figure on our property details."
 
Participant 002277
"I support your thought Boyd, keep it up."
 
Participant 002280
"If it aint broke - don't fix it!"
 
Participant 002286
"I agree that the reform process is not to the benefit of GA flying but only seems to be driving GA flying to be non-existent & for all GA activities to cease."
 
Participant 002290
"GA aviation in Australia has been almost wiped out, because of too much reform and compliance factors. CASA is hell bent on destroying what is left ?? ?? To stop this process."
 
Participant 002301
"Note that I am only a student pilot"
 
Participant 002307
"Do they ?? In these ?? ?? - so that we miss others? We need "truth in drafting Regulation" legislation"
 
Participant 002310
"The reform has delivered parts 21-35 to the advantage of local industry establishing experimental and primary categories as well as streamlining other processes by reducing 3 tier legal to 2 as it should be. The reform was achieved only after several parties presented CASA and the minister with detailed drafts of all the changes together with?? Etc. They were derived from the US FARs and NZ and bypassed the legal drafting / CASA. It was a shock to CASA that private citizens should initiate and detail changes direct to parliament. But it worked and should continue. That exercise cost thousands of dollars and and hours but it was worth it. Hence my support for dealing directly with the minister."
 
Participant 002318
"Only if Anderson is no longer minister."
 
Participant 002319
"Reform can only be successful by industry consultation and I do not believe CASA does that adequately by holding meetings only in major/capital cities. I am not convinced reform by the ministers office will be any better. CASA conducted a recent phone survey over reform through a group of consultants: they had generated a series of questions and depending on the answers, different questions followed. When I pointed out their charter/aerial work categories were not correct or appropriate I find out the consultant has never flown in a Light/GA category aircraft! When I faxed the head of airservices Australia over this $1.65 Avfax fiasco they claim to have consulted with industry. I asked for a list of names 6 months ago, not one name! (now its $0.50)"
 
Participant 002326
"I don't believe we would get any better deal from the current ministers office than we would from CASA."
 
Participant 002327
"Thanks for drawing my attention to this."
 
Participant 002329
"As a pilot who only flies for pleasure I see no need for reform at this stage."
 
Participant 002331
"We just have to keep fighting."
 
Participant 002334
"Keep up the good work"
 
Participant 002341
"CASA should consult with more aircraft owners prior to bulldozing legislation through without any consultation and representation."
 
Participant 002346
"The reforms proposed appear to be not in the interest of private aviation and greatly add to the mistrust of CASA"
 
Participant 002349
"CASA should involve itself in assisting the aviation industry instead of trying to introduce laws which further inhibit forward progress to safety and viability."
 
Participant 002354
"My thoughts on the subject are unprintable. Best of luck."
 
Participant 002355
"I feel we have more chance of input if it is run by the ministers office than if it run by CASA."
 
Participant 002356
"I feel that reform is needed but it should be taken out of CASA hands we have more chance of input if it is run by the ministers office."
 
Participant 002364
"CASA has too much power, seem to be more concerned with the Big boys, not GA."
 
Participant 002365
"I believe that the Minister should be directly involved and in control of the Aviation Reform Program, so that sensible, workable, cost effective and most of all SAFETY RELATED reforms are DECIDED upon and introduced,only after complete and unbiased consultation has taken place. (Why introduce change if it’s not safety related?) If safety isn’t the first priority, why have change?CASA should be responsible for seeing that the rules and requirements are complied with, but not for forming the rules as well. Otherwise, there is the distinct possibility that those who form the rules and police the rules and interpretthe rules and decide on the punishment for breaking the rules, may not be entirely unbiased in their judgements."
 
Participant 002367
"I would prefer that the reform program be abandoned than that it continue to be run by CASA."
 
Participant 002379
"It's enough to drive you away from aviation."
 
Participant 002382
"Aviation reform should only become law when through consultation and agreement within the industry has been reached."
 
Participant 002390
"Thanks for being our watch dog (the only one)"
 
Participant 002393
"CASA must be stopped it is a bureucratic department out of control."
 
Participant 002442
"I would really like CASA to control the reform but not in its current state. Reform must be achieved through consultation and only implemented after thorough scrutiny by all facets of the aviation industry. CASA's current hard nose attitude is hurting GA and it has the audacity to make or change regulations the affect individuals but refuses to be held accountable for its actions. If CASA's decisions were open to litigation I am sure aviation reform would slow down but the reforms that were implemented would be sound and good for the industry."
 
Participant 002447
"The minister would need to be 'hands on', not a lame duck like the present incumbent. With regard to aircraft registration, what is so different to motor vehicle registration? NSW RTA manages a system that registers far more vehicles that all Australian aircraft with prompt service and minimal problems."
 
Participant 002451
"Th aviation minister appears naïve to CASA's desire to make things so hard we don’t want to fly or he feels the same way!"
 
Participant 002453
"Reform should continue ?? With consultation with those effected by the reforms."
 
Participant 002470
"Change to simplify, clarify, free up our skies for VFR. Light aeroplane flying is the only change that I want to see - ?? Higher penalties as for road traffic offences."
 
Participant 002473
"Why cant the minister include AIR SAFETY AUSTRALIA and other relevant bodies in comprehensive reform program to reflect 21st century requirements for he foreseeable future."
 
Participant 002491
"I don't think CASA can be trusted even if the ministers office was to run it. CASA has too much influence through the public service."
 
Participant 002497
"It is impossible for a private pilot to be up to date with the aviation changes."
 
Participant 002498
"I will be writing to the local Mp as well"
 
Participant 002509
"In respect to the australian aviation reform program in general it should only ?? ?? which promote cost savings and efficiency - good enough shoud be ?? - the cost/efficiency factor should be the first consideration - otherwise there will be "no industryto reform" just a ????"
 
Participant 002511
"Thanks for taking the time and money to follow this through. Apathy is our biggest problem in this country."
 
Participant 002512
"We do not need anymore reform we are over-regulated now."
 
Participant 002516
"Reform program should be halted - re constituted - then conducted by the ministers office."
 
Participant 002529
"CASA seem hell bent on persecuting the honest pilot and aircraft owner and turns a blind eye to people like the skydivers at Barwon Heads jumping through cloud after receiving many reports."
 
Participant 002536
"Its time the whole CASA organisation had the "PULL THROUGH" treatment. The ability of CASA inspectors to ground the aircraft for minor defects like loss of decals or tyres worn on one side is nothing short of ridiculous."
 
Participant 002550
"We definitely need more input from grassroots GA - CASA must be made to listen."
 
Participant 002553
"poer failure caused loss of previous fax"
 
Participant 002558
"CASA is out of control. They should have to abide by t he same rules they supposedly administer."
 
Participant 002559
"I would say halt the reform a minister who is interested in transport is appointed, and the whole issue of CASA is reviewed - more important to change them than regulate."
 
Participant 002591
"If the reform process is halted, ?? Should be made to consult with industry to ?? ?? A new reform ?? Under new CASA ?? ?? Simplify aviation regulations."
 
Participant 002601
"CASA appears to be run by vindictives and that is scarey."
 
Participant 002604
"Let's put an end to CASA full stop!"
 
Participant 002618
"I don’t really understand all this but have no faith in CASA what ever, I see Labor is going to sack Toller if they get in."
 
Participant 002625
"Not at this stage"
 
Participant 002626
"Exactly! Who wants change for changes sake! I would only support a reform designed by people who fly!!"
 
Participant 002633
"New rules usually mean more penalties, we have more than enough rules already."
 
Participant 002635
"Thanks Boyd"
 
Participant 002638
"For the future of aviation I agree laws should be introduced from the ministers office and not CASA."
 
Participant 002640
"Stop change for the sake of change and disguising it as 'safety'. The current registration system works so do not fix it!"
 
Participant 002641
"Stop change for the sake of change and disguising it as 'safety'. The current registration system works so do not fix it!"
 
Participant 002642
"I keep hearing people in the industry being afraid to act due fear of retrinution by authority officers."
 
Participant 002645
"I think I ?? I am a member of AIR SAFETY AUSTRALIA, if not may I join."
 
Participant 002647
"I joined AIR SAFETY AUSTRALIA at inception P.S AIR SAFETY AUSTRALIA please note. My company owns Lancair VH-xxx (kit built) I am retired PPL holder and retired RAAF flight crew officer (WWII) I am keen to sell VH-xxx and CASA's controversial/flight manuals etc Seem unnecessary and complicated to me."
 
Participant 002649
"Civil Aviation Act needs amendment to incorporate a holistic approach to national transport and make growth in aviation sector a CASA responsibility."
 
Participant 002650
"Leaving CASA in charge of rule making / policing & judging is a travesty of out Westminster system and a recipe for disaster"
 
Participant 002653
"Please combine with AOPA. Divided we Win!"
 
Participant 002654
"Thank you Boyd"
 
Participant 002655
"The industry is falling into an abyss so deep we will never get out of it. CASA & Ansett have the same problem - management."
 
Participant 002658
"As a COR, COA holder, LAME and PPL I agree that some reform from time to time is vital. However, years of confusion leave one more than a bit bewildered especially trying to operate a maintenance business and fly."
 
Participant 002659
"CASA remind me of the SS. Get rid of the useless pricks and start again. Keep politics out of the industry."
 
Participant 002661
"Keep up the good work"
 
Participant 002662
"Aviation reform run by CASA. CASA should be answerable ?????"
 
Participant 002663
"Aviation reform should be run by the ministers office with support by the industry. Workers from the industry should formulate the new regs."
 
Participant 002665
"CASA culture has again declined aviation and increased costs. CASA culture has no justifiable direction."
 
Participant 002666
"Why not adopt the whole rules and regulations of the FAA in the USA? They have a better safety record than us even with their worse weather."
 
Participant 002668
"I am not sure if I am a member of AIR SAFETY AUSTRALIA. I was surveyed as an operator about all this and it was a Joke."
 
Participant 002669
"The minister needs information which is better than that of his advisers who don't know anything. You have to be credible and get his confidence. He needs to have a small business slant too. Too many boy scouts and weekend warriors are confusing him.Small business (GA) need change. GA must be seperated from airline issues and from ??? Organisations. CASA is killing GA charter & flying training organisations every day. Wh?? Including us in airline RPT type legislation. Many of our rules have nothing to do with safety!"
 
Participant 002670
"Keep at them Boyd or they'll go berserk."
 
Participant 002674
"As I am about to confront CASA on another matter please ?? Register my vote - then accept my resignation. I shall rejoin when I have solved my 'problem'."
 
Participant 002675
"CASA's lack of experienced personnel is making the ?? Worse by the day"
 
Participant 002678
"Should be halted until we get a handle on where reform is going."
 
Participant 002679
"Cost efficient reform (modernization) should continue"
 
Participant 002680
"Changes should benefit those intended to be served by it and those effected by it. Change must not disadvantage anyone!"
 
Participant 002681
"The Government office, and only the government office should be in control of reform, consulting with all concerned."
 
Participant 002682
"Waste of time and money and aircraft registration should (and could) be very simple. Lets go FAA like NZ."
 
Participant 002683
"There is an old saying "if it aint broke don’t fix it""
 
Participant 002684
"This is one reason I fly 600+ hours in my ultralights (auf reg) and under 100hours in ? Cessna 182."
 
Participant 002688
"I agree completely with your analysis. There are obviously too many people employed by CASA."
 
Participant 002689
"If the CAR'S Running well leave it alone."
 
Participant 002690
"I have had enough of change for chanes sake."
 
Participant 002691
"Good on you Boyd."
 
Participant 002692
"Keep it up"
 
Participant 002695
"I am in favour of "steady as she goes" IE get rid of the public servants that dream up ideas to create a job for themselves and anguish for us."
 
Participant 002697
"It appears to be a continuation of "change for change sake" when will it stop, when there is no General Aviation left in this country."
 
Participant 002698
"Did not receive this form until arriving at my office this morning"
 
Participant 002700
"Dick Smith had the best ideas but in the end he didn't have the support of CASA. CASA has lost the plot."
 
Participant 002703
"Confusion too much to absorb."
 
Participant 002704
"Having been away I was sure I had missed the cutoff date."
 
Participant 002705
"Obviously the minister needs to have much greater control over the direction of outcomes sought by reform."
 
Participant 002708
"I can not quite understand this waste of resource. Re writing the Laws increasing the penaltys. All over 10000 Australian aircraft. How many staff to ?? Compared to the motoring regulator. What an almighty stuff up."
 
Participant 002710
"Why are we fixing things that aren't broke, if this was applicable to our aircraft none of us would be flying anymore (it is not far off it)"
 
Participant 002713
"Only if "reform" is conducted by the ministers office will "AIR SAFETY AUSTRALIA" and the general aviation industry be able to have effective input(?)"
 
Participant 002714
"Sorry I have been away and this answer is delayed. Keep up the good work. AOPA have ceased sending notices as I have not paid my fees."
 
Participant 002715
"Well done Boyd - Thank goodness for your watchdogness - for goodness sake lets get some commonsense into these beuraucrates"
 
Participant 002719
"My Apologies! Though I am not sure about Ministers doing the right thing."
 
Participant 002720
"Thanking You"
 
Participant 002724
"I'm totally frustrated by continual change!! Let's get it right the first time + stop wasting time + money."
 
Participant 002725
"Keep up the good work."
 
Participant 002729
"The alignment of the CASR with the JAR may have partial relevance to VH operations, internationally but to alter the size of registration letters on the GA fleet to comply with the JAR is crap. However, the next time that I flit across to England in theJ3 Cub I will know that I will not attract criminal charges if the rego letters are of a size that does not offend the poms. I joined the department of name changes in 1978 as a LAME. My permanent appointment to th epublic service was delayed for severalyears because the Civil Aviation System was being "reformed". It is still being reformed today, for a long time it appeared to be of some benefit, now I feel as though enough is enough. Having just read NPRM 9807RP "registration of aircraft" The feeling is re-inforced."
 
Participant 002730
"I have participated in the review since its inception and I am firmly of the opinion that the review cannot possibly succeed while it is under the direction of CASA. I am also a member of the Standards Consultative Committee and I believe that the committee has become simply a rubber stamp for CASA's decisions - Industry really has no say at all."
 
Participant 002731
"It is sad that CASA should be continually frustrating and even ?? Our aviation industry instead of assisting."
 
Participant 002732
"Stop change for the sake of change - Get rid of chiefs from B/S castle and startagain."
 
Participant 002733
"AIR SAFETY AUSTRALIA with Dick Smith and associates should approach the minister to assist his office to restructure CASA, review its expenditure costs without lose of valued employees"
 
Participant 002734
"I have emailed other aviators to add their comments It's (CASA) is a mess but how do you fix it!"
 
Participant 002735
"I find the "reform of aviation" ? Very confusing and irritating. Much of the ?? Sounds like something out of "yes minister" ?? Must simple PPL's be forced to become involved in these unnecessary changes. Just leave us alone to get on with flying safely for pleasure eg: My aircraft does not need a new flight manual - the one I presently use is quite adequate."
 
Participant 002737
"Thanks for your assistance."
 
Participant 002743
"I don’t trust CASA to run anything - let alone something as important as the Aviation Reform Program."
 
Participant 002745
"I have always said that CASA staff could not have a piss without wetting their trouser's legs, but it appears they are now bent on rendering the humidity on those who pay for their existence."
 
Participant 002747
"CASA no longer has my respect. I turned 68 today & CASA, after my 40 year service to flying training, no longer gives me respect by challenging my decisions.?? ?? When will the CFI's and CP's be allowed to exercise the authority they were given? When theyare to be held responsible - they must also hae the authority to take action and make decisions, even outside the written guidelines on occasions. CASA are noted for the occasion they re write - re interperet the rules. Your right I have reached my use bydate! Hooray"
 
Participant 002749
"Iff CASA don’t ?? Aviation in australia the us/aussie $ will."
 
Participant 002752
"CASA must be made accountable under common law. There is too much authority ?? By untouchable public servants."
 
Participant 002753
"This is the first I have heard of AIR SAFETY AUSTRALIA. Could you please send information with regards to this organisation to me, as I no longer own an aircraft nor member of AOPA."
 
Participant 002754
"Ashamed to admit I am unsure if I am a member already but would certainly like to be."
 
Participant 002757
"I am not sure if I am a member."
 
Participant 002758
"I can't remember if I have signed up as a member of AIR SAFETY AUSTRALIA or not. If I am not a member I would like to become one."
 
Participant 002762
"Aviation in Australia cannot continue to pay for the constant fight on numeroous front to stop beaurocratic reform. This is nothing to do with safety."
 
Participant 002763
"Very concerned about CASA driven aviation reform. Any change should only be made a genuine redirection in complexity and real improvement in safety of existing regs."
 
Participant 002765
"I appreciate your constant policing of CASA's sins against private aviatiors in Australia."
 
Participant 002770
"It's enough to drive you away from aviation."
 
Participant 002771
"Have a proper series pf discussions with avition operators before changing anything and only change or modify if necessary. Listen to people and take notice."
 
Participant 002773
"Thank you for the opportunity to vote. They are making too many changes that confuse the ?? Pilot"
 
Participant 002775
"Why don’t we move to move all these new added too regulation? We should simplify and reduce not add to something bad!! The courts should decide on guilt not CASA, lets restart with FAA's as a base."
 
Participant 002777
"Even though CASA is a long way from perfect. I think the ministers department have enough on their plate."
 
Participant 002783
"CASA must not - cannot - do reform job."
 
Participant 002787
"Good on you - keep stirring"
 
Participant 002790
"Thank you very much for your efforts on our behalf"
 
Participant 002791
"Could I suggest that a way of making sure that AD's gets to the person responsible for the maintenance is to have their name and address entered on the certificate of registration as well as the normal owner."
 
Participant 002802
"Boyd, in this matter I trust your judgement, please number my ballot paper as you would your own."
 
Participant 002805
"Hi how are you"
 
Participant 002814
"I fully support Boyd Munro and AIR SAFETY AUSTRALIA actions directions and efforts in making aviation better safer and simpler on the future of the reform of Aviation Regulations"
 
Participant 002816
"I cannot trust CASA for a number of reasons 3 of which follows :- CASA receives reports of my indebtedness to airservices etc so they tell me and where else I do not know and Ansett loses 1.3m per day.  So much for financial viability. CASA are unfair in regard to cao48.1 exemtion. They have removed mine and I am locked up to charter contracts witjh Maynes logistics while other operators continue with theirs.They are unreasonable and unprepared for their actions as in the PA31 350 ad REAR STABILISER spar replacement when stock is simply not available"
 
Participant 002821
"I am not totally happy with any of the above options. I think there should be a reform program to change some of the ridiculous and archaic rules that we currently have but the reform should be done by a committee representing all forms of aviation. The committee members should have relevant "hands on" experience in the form of aviation that they are representing."
 
Participant 002831
"CASA has proved beyond reasonable doubt that it is incapable of reforming anything, and is simply involved in self-protection and burgeoning bureacracy, for whatever reasons. The industry, and GAin particular, has lost all faith in CASA, and has no respect for CASA whatsoever. In my view the problem stems from the Office of Legal Counsel in CASA, where relatively inexperienced lawyers are attempting to plug leaks and protect theirarses with ill conceived leglslation discguised as "reform". We have the proof of this in the fact that when they "adopt" foreign legislation, certain key words are altered so as to completely distort the legal effect of teh Australian legislationThe reform process has been corrupted and should be stopped pending a Senate Inquiry."
 
Participant 002833
"Remarks: My view is that none of the above responses are likely to produce a solution fair to all parties. I think that a group should be made up of a representative committee which comprises Industry-Private,Commercial and CASA nominated personal all of equal input with a Chairperson with a casting vote. These recommendations should also be supported with sound reasons for change and open to scrutiny. The recommendations then are passed onto the Minister for implementation. The committee should also be made to report actual progress so that their performance can benchmarked and obliged to progress to a finite conclusion in a given practical time frame. The objectives should be to produce a workable and fair document taking into account similar systems which have already proven effective in other countries and to promote a flourishing Australian aviation industry. I hold a FAA endorsement on my licence and have 40 hours flying light aircraft in USA. Thanks for the information and opportunity to express my humble "Weekend Warrior Views"."
 
Participant 002834
"Sensible and practical aviation reform MUST go ahead, but it MUST be controlled and run from the Minister's Office. Minister Anderson has been seriously remiss in his running of this portfolio. CASA bureaucrats have shown themselves to be incapable of proper consultation with the Industry and the propensity to draft useless punitive legislation such as EVU, AOC'sfor the ultralight movement, changes to C of R Registry etc etc ad nauseum, do NOTHING to enhance safety.Australia has more useless legislation than either the USA, UK, Canada or NZ, yet by comparison we have a pathetic safety record. CASA MUST be controlled and do the bidding of our elected representatives."
 
Participant 002835
"Remarks: Good luck! I sat next to a previously 1st Class Ansett passenger , an SA Government "FatCat" on Virgin to Sydney yesterday, and he was so upset! The seats were too close, and this was really below his status! Just like most of our problem, but it is so much a part of their lifestyle they will always fight harder than us to maintain it!…We need to look at the big picture...privatisation of the department is the only long term solution, as it removes the need to daily fight with a self preserving system. We need to encourage them into the belief that they are so good at what they do (they already know that don't they!) that they can make lots of money, and live like kings under a privatised department!....Encourage them into the real world!"
 
Participant 002840
"Reform should be stopped if no further advantageous changes can be effected"
 
Participant 002842
"Before any further reform, the purpose and goals of any possible reform need defining. Once this purpose and goals are defined.then the authors of any proposed reform must show how their reform meets the agreed purpose or goals. If this can't be done, the reform should automatically be dropped."
 
Participant 002846
"How much more time must the aviation community continue to have to spend in fighting CASA on issues such as the New Registration System, to name only one. Should this proposed "draft" become law it will solve nothing, it will make people criminally liable who are not, and will create another bureaucratic nightmare of paperwork for people already spending excessive amounts of time "filling in forms", instead of tending to their businesses. Change for the sake of change seems to be the reason here; or is CASA's real agenda to create more jobs within its already bloated Department on committees investigating change?"
 
Participant 002847
"Keep up the great work!"
 
Participant 002851
"the use of draconian laws (regulatory) is out of hand. Time to review."
 
Participant 002852
"There should be a national industry forum convened to produce a manifesto to be."
 
Participant 002853
"Throw out CAO, CAR - Use FAR's - Slowly (+carefully) introduce CAO CAR CAA (where appropriate) into FAR's"
 


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