RESPONSES TO QUESTIONNAIRE ABOUT CAAP 54

RESPONSES TO QUESTIONNAIRE ABOUT CAAP 54-1

Date/Time, Response ID, Aircraft Type, Compliant?, First heard about CAAP, Comments

1 200134,15X062, PA-38 Tomahawk No. 13th June from May/June FlightSafety magazine. Bought new book for $60 from Skylines. Now told it does not comply because no serial number stamped on cover. Hawkers now want $170 plus GST - on back order - no difference in books and no Piper amendment service. Hawkers phone number is 02 9708 8555

2 200138, 35X243, C-210 Cessna 210 No. 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants 2 years. "Why does everything these days have to be kept so hush-hush by the establishment?"

3 200145,18x631, Thorp T-18, No. 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants 2 years. "AOPA should have been on the ball and advised members when CAAP54-1 came off the press.

4 200150, 39X943, C-182S, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, No time frame specified. "No problem for us to obtain a flight manual from Cessna as it is a late model."

5 200150, 41X809, C-402, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, No time frame specified. "Why not insist on a new manual for all new registrations - The old manual can stay"

6 200211, AOPA40X589, DH-82, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. Wants 5 years.

7 200220, 41x697, D-104 Doves X 3, No, through industry subscribed documents. Wants 2 years. "de Havilland are no more. The OLD manuals have not been amended since 1967 and are way out of date. I have a Flight Training Manual which can be converted to the flight manual but I shudder to think of the price to approve same."

8 200229, AOPA16X100, VJ-22 Sportsman, Yes, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants 2 years. "Aircraft homebuilt, complete but yet to fly"

9 200234, AOPA34X207, Mooney M20J, No, Vaguely last year, Wants two years. "Why hasn't CASA sent me a copy of CAAP 54-1and copies of the approval page and amendment sheets? I joined AOPA partly to be kept informed"

10 200242, AOPA26X221, PA-30, No, 8th June from Comanche Society. Wants twenty-five years. "25 years will see me out."

11 200252, AOPA 28X661, Mooney M20J, No, Approx 2 weeks ago. "I have no idea of what is required or why."

12 200311, AOPA40X589, DH-82, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants five years.

13 200335, AOPA13X061, PA-28-161, PA-28-181, PA-31, A36, E95, V35-A, V100, Some, August 1999, wants two years. "CASA airworthiness mentioned it. CASA did circulate info in 1999.

14 200340, AOPA35X755, PA-28, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants twenty five years.

15 200344, AOPA17X178, C177, C177B, No, CASA Publications, Wants twenty five years. "Totally unnecessary change. Will cost $$$ for nothing"

16 200347, AOPA14X627, C182, C303, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants two years. "A gradual phase out would make sense."

17 200356, AOPA29X097, YAK 52, No, From Flight Safety magazine. Wants 25 years. "I don't need a new system"

18 200357, AOPA00XCB3, C210, Super Cub, Calair A9, Stearman, Mooney, No, 2 days ago, told at Jandakot airport. "Have seen an aircraft manual that was in MPH and Gallons. Happy with old flight manual"

19 200357, AOPA14X205, C172, C182, No, From Flight Safety magazine. Wants 2 - 5 years. "Total confusion exists and no advice or guidance has come from AOPA."

20 200358, AOPA37X673, C172, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. "What are the costs and other relevant details?"

21 200402, AOPA36X307, C421B, C152, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. Wants 5 years. "I would be interested to hear how owners of older aircraft have solved this problem"

22 200405, AOPA36X838, DHC-1, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants 'Grandfather clause'. "There is not a whole lot of operationally relevant data coming out about antique aircraft."

23 200411, AOPA40X258, C182, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax.

24 200411, AOPA44X117, C172, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. Wants 2 years, "Typical of what's going on"

25 200412, AOPA44X590, PA-24, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. "Just to now would have been good."

26 200414, AOPA14X613, V115, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. "Where is AOPA?."

27 200415, AOPA 44X487, Lancair 360, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. Wants minimum of 2 years.

28 200415, AOPA13X471, C150, Duchess, No, Some weeks ago, Received CAAP 54-1 in the mail but over looked it due to endless garbage from CASA. Wants two years. "Will CASA ever help aviation?"

29 200416, AOPA36X971, C206, C182, Yes, About 6-8 months ago. CASA sent information to AOC holder. Wants two years. "I agree with your sentiments. There has not been enough 'plain speak' info.

30 200417, AOPA38X549, C182, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants twenty five years. "Don't understand the reason for change. Have no idea what is required."

31 200420, AOPA00XGTW, C182, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. Wants 5 years.

32 200420, AOPA00XGTW, C182, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants five years.

33 200424, AOPA34X351, Thorp T-18c, C182, No, Last issue of flight safety magazine, Wants twenty five years. "I hope there is a good reason for this change!"

34 200426, AOPA25X647, BE-36, No, 6 months ago, Wants two years. "No information on what has to be done and how.

35 200429, AOPA14X524, PA34, PA44, BE-55, Auster J5P, AC560E, DH89A, Some, 1999, Wants 5 years, "So far only Beech POH has become available through Hawker Pacific,"

36 20043, AOPA11X298, CHRISTEN A1, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants two years.

37 200436, 29X433, C172RG, F33A, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants 2 years, "Would be grateful for any information you can supply us"

38 200436, 37X435, A/C type not specified, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants 5 years

39 200439, 42X069, Piper Mallibu, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, "As this is the first time I have heard of this so I am not sure what to do."

40 200442, 15X134, C172, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants two years. "I would not know where to start, my maintenance organisation has not caught up with this change."

41 200442, AOPA00XHJG, Thorp T-18c, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, "First I have heard of this."

42 200451, AOPA26X336, PA28-R, C152, Approx 25 other GA A/C, Some, Auto Mail, "Better publicising of the requirement is need to educate & prepare owners and operators"

43 200452, AOPA39X193, Jodel D150, 12 June when amendments to CAAP were received. Yes, "Phoned CASA re another aircraft and they and they didn't know the answers until they bought it up on the computer. Took 15-20 minutes for them to find the answer"

44 200456, AOPA23X534, PA28-235, No, A type communication from CASA, wants two years. "This system has been suitable for a long time, a longer phase in system would not affect safety."

45 200459, AOPA26X328, C172, No, June 2000, Wants two years,

46 200459, AOPA44X403, PA28R, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants two years. "Thanks for your information on this matter"

47 200502, AOPA19X760, PA-39, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants 25 years, "What has AOPA been up to not to have informed us?"

48 200509, AOPA10X858, B35, C152, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants five years.

49 200514, AOPA 41X688, PA-28, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. "What is CAAP 54-1?"

50 200519, AOPA13X914, PA32-301, PA28-201T, PA34-200T, BeechF33A, Yes, Feb 00 CASA Circular, No time frame specified. "Glad to get rid of the useless CASA flight manuals. All aircraft now have manufacturers pilots operating handbook."

51 200528, AOPA 20X695, A/C type not specified, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Forever, "This type of constant, pointless change is impossible to fully track."

52 200529, AOPA 35X562, C207, Mooney M20J, Partenavia, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants five years. "CASA seems to be out to destroy GA in whatever way it can."

53 200533, AOPA 44X422, Mooney M20J, Yes, Last Saturday at Aeroclub, Wants two years.

54 200534, AOPA 29469, PA28-180, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants two years. "How and when were we meant to be notified of this change?"

55 200535, AOPA 38X692, B55 Baron, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax.

56 200540, AOPA 00XEJE, DHC-1, No, March 2000, friend saw it on CASA website. Wants two years. "1 year should have been sufficient if it was bought to all owners attention in August 99."

57 200542, AOPA33X603, PA28-181, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. Wants 5 years. "Why is this change neccessary?"

58 200542, AOPA35X358, C-182, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants two years.

59 200542, AOPA35X658, C182, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. Wants 2 years.

60 200545, AOPA40X174, TB20 , No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. "I have no idea what this means"

61 200553, AOPA 40X531, Glasair III, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. Wants 10 years. "I agree with you Boyd"

62 200553, AOPA18X401, C172, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. "As soon as I know what to do I will do it"

63 200559, AOPA 25X508, V115, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants five years. "Another nail in the coffin of private aviation on Australia."

64 200603, AOPA 37X578, Lancair 320, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax.

65 200636, AOPA38X988, TB20, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. Wants 2 years.

1	200134,15X062, PA-38 Tomahawk No. 13th June from May/June FlightSafety magazine. Bought new book for $60 from Skylines. Now told it does not comply because no serial number stamped on cover. Hawkers now want $170 plus GST - on back order - no difference in books and no Piper amendment service. Hawkers phone number is 02 9708 8555

2	200138, 35X243, C-210 Cessna 210 No. 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants 2 years. "Why does everything these days have to be kept so hush-hush by the establishment?"

3	200145,18x631, Thorp T-18, No. 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants 2 years. "AOPA should have been on the ball and advised members when CAAP54-1 came off the press.

4	200150, 39X943, C-182S, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, No time frame specified. "No problem for us to obtain a flight manual from Cessna as it is a late model."

5	200150, 41X809, C-402, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, No time frame specified. "Why not insist on a new manual for all new registrations - The old manual can stay"

6	200211, AOPA40X589, DH-82, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. Wants 5 years.

7	200220, 41x697, D-104 Doves X 3, No, through industry subscribed documents. Wants 2 years. "de Havilland are no more. The OLD manuals have not been amended since 1967 and are way out of date. I have a Flight Training Manual which can be converted to the flight manual but I shudder to think of the price to approve same."

8	200229, AOPA16X100, VJ-22 Sportsman, Yes, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants 2 years. "Aircraft homebuilt, complete but yet to fly"

9	200234, AOPA34X207, Mooney M20J, No, Vaguely last year, Wants two years. "Why hasn't CASA sent me a copy of CAAP 54-1and copies of the approval page and amendment sheets? I joined AOPA partly to be kept informed"

10	200242, AOPA26X221, PA-30, No, 8th June from Comanche Society. Wants twenty-five years. "25 years will see me out."

11	200252, AOPA 28X661, Mooney M20J, No, Approx 2 weeks ago. "I have no idea of what is required or why."

12	200311, AOPA40X589, DH-82, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants five years.

13	200335, AOPA13X061, PA-28-161, PA-28-181, PA-31, A36, E95, V35-A, V100, Some, August 1999, wants two years. "CASA airworthiness mentioned it. CASA did circulate info in 1999.

14	200340, AOPA35X755, PA-28, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants twenty five years.

15	200344, AOPA17X178, C177, C177B, No, CASA Publications, Wants twenty five years. "Totally unnecessary change. Will cost $$$ for nothing"

16	200347, AOPA14X627, C182, C303, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants two years. "A gradual phase out would make sense."

17	200356, AOPA29X097, YAK 52, No, From Flight Safety magazine. Wants 25 years. "I don't need a new system"

18	200357, AOPA00XCB3, C210, Super Cub, Calair A9, Stearman, Mooney, No, 2 days ago, told at Jandakot airport. "Have seen an aircraft manual that was in MPH and Gallons. Happy with old flight manual"

19	200357, AOPA14X205, C172, C182, No, From Flight Safety magazine. Wants 2 - 5 years. "Total confusion exists and no advice or guidance has come from AOPA."

20	200358, AOPA37X673, C172, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. "What are the costs and other relevant details?"

21	200402, AOPA36X307, C421B, C152, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. Wants 5 years. "I would be interested to hear how owners of older aircraft have solved this problem"

22	200405, AOPA36X838, DHC-1, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants 'Grandfather clause'. "There is not a whole lot of operationally relevant data coming out about antique aircraft."

23	200411, AOPA40X258, C182, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax.

24	200411, AOPA44X117, C172, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. Wants 2 years, "Typical of what's going on"

25	200412, AOPA44X590, PA-24, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. "Just to now would have been good."

26	200414, AOPA14X613, V115, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. "Where is AOPA?."

27	200415, AOPA 44X487, Lancair 360, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. Wants minimum of 2 years.

28	200415, AOPA13X471, C150, Duchess, No, Some weeks ago, Received CAAP 54-1 in the mail but over looked it due to endless garbage from CASA. Wants two years. "Will CASA ever help aviation?"

29	200416, AOPA36X971, C206, C182, Yes, About 6-8 months ago. CASA sent information to AOC holder. Wants two years. "I agree with your sentiments. There has not been enough 'plain speak' info.

30	200417, AOPA38X549, C182, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants twenty five years. "Don't understand the reason for change. Have no idea what is required."

31	200420, AOPA00XGTW, C182, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. Wants 5 years.

32	200420, AOPA00XGTW, C182, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants five years.

33	200424, AOPA34X351, Thorp T-18c, C182, No, Last issue of flight safety magazine, Wants twenty five years. "I hope there is a good reason for this change!"

34	200426, AOPA25X647, BE-36, No, 6 months ago, Wants two years. "No information on what has to be done and how.

35	200429, AOPA14X524, PA34, PA44, BE-55, Auster J5P, AC560E, DH89A, Some, 1999, Wants 5 years, "So far only Beech POH has become available through Hawker Pacific,"

36	20043, AOPA11X298, CHRISTEN A1, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants two years.

37	200436, 29X433, C172RG, F33A, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants 2 years, "Would be grateful for any information you can supply us"

38	200436, 37X435, A/C type not specified, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants 5 years

39	200439, 42X069, Piper Mallibu, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, "As this is the first time I have heard of this so I am not sure what to do."

40	200442, 15X134, C172, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants two years. "I would not know where to start, my maintenance organisation has not caught up with this change."

41	200442, AOPA00XHJG, Thorp T-18c, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, "First I have heard of this."

42	200451, AOPA26X336, PA28-R, C152, Approx 25 other GA A/C, Some, Auto Mail, "Better publicising of the requirement is need to educate & prepare owners and operators"

43	200452, AOPA39X193, Jodel D150, 12 June when amendments to CAAP were received. Yes, "Phoned CASA re another aircraft and they and they didn't know the answers until they bought it up on the computer. Took 15-20 minutes for them to find the answer"

44	200456, AOPA23X534, PA28-235, No, A type communication from CASA, wants two years. "This system has been suitable for a long time, a longer phase in system would not affect safety."

45	200459, AOPA26X328, C172, No, June 2000, Wants two years,

46	200459, AOPA44X403, PA28R, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants two years. "Thanks for your information on this matter"

47	200502, AOPA19X760, PA-39, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants 25 years, "What has AOPA been up to not to have informed us?"

48	200509, AOPA10X858, B35, C152, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants five years.

49	200514, AOPA 41X688, PA-28, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. "What is CAAP 54-1?"

50	200519, AOPA13X914, PA32-301, PA28-201T, PA34-200T, BeechF33A, Yes, Feb 00 CASA Circular, No time frame specified. "Glad to get rid of the useless CASA flight manuals. All aircraft now have manufacturers pilots operating handbook."

51	200528, AOPA 20X695, A/C type not specified, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Forever, "This type of constant, pointless change is impossible to fully track."

52	200529, AOPA 35X562, C207, Mooney M20J, Partenavia, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants five years. "CASA seems to be out to destroy GA in whatever way it can."

53	200533, AOPA 44X422, Mooney M20J, Yes, Last Saturday at Aeroclub, Wants two years.

54	200534, AOPA 29469, PA28-180, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants two years. "How and when were we meant to be notified of this change?"

55	200535, AOPA 38X692, B55 Baron, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax.

56	200540, AOPA 00XEJE, DHC-1, No, March 2000, friend saw it on CASA website. Wants two years. "1 year should have been sufficient if it was bought to all owners attention in August 99."

57	200542, AOPA33X603, PA28-181, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. Wants 5 years. "Why is this change neccessary?"

58	200542, AOPA35X358, C-182, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants two years.

59	200542, AOPA35X658, C182, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. Wants 2 years.

60	200545, AOPA40X174, TB20 , No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. "I have no idea what this means"

61	200553, AOPA 40X531, Glasair III, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. Wants 10 years. "I agree with you Boyd"

62	200553, AOPA18X401, C172, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. "As soon as I know what to do I will do it"

63	200559, AOPA 25X508, V115, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax, Wants five years. "Another nail in the coffin of private aviation on Australia."

64	200603, AOPA 37X578, Lancair 320, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax.

65	200636, AOPA38X988, TB20, No, 20th June from Boyd Munro's fax. Wants 2 years.